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how to clean pilot jet #60730 03/20/10 12:47 AM
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hey all,
is there anything that can help clean out any crud or varnish buildup on the pilot jet without taking carb out and soaking it all, etc? the dealer told me my symptons (quick throttle stalls bike but slow and smooth eventually gets enough fuel to main jet to up rpm) sound just like the pilot jet needing cleaning but want $180 bucks to do it.
didn't know if running a tank of new gas or some fuel additive, etc. might help
AND if there's anybody around Los Angeles area who could do a carb breakdown and cleaning for a case of beer or some cash, please let me know. I don't have a garage anymore.
thnx a lot

Last edited by moviemaker; 03/20/10 01:14 AM.


just trying to have fun;)

Re: how to clean pilot jet [Re: moviemaker] #60731 03/20/10 01:09 AM

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Hi Moviemaker,

First check for clean air filter, clean spark plug gapped right, and replace gas with a fresh tank.

Is the inside of your gas tank rusty? If it is, all the rust will travel into the carb bowl and clog the jets. Using an inline gas filter is always a good idea.

If your bike sat for a year or more, then there is a good chance of getting varnish buildup in your carb. It will clog the pilot and main jet passage ways and restrict fuel flow. The bike will run lean and bog when under alot of load.

If this is the case, then the only real way to clean the carb is to remove it and take it apart. There is no "mechanic in a bottle" that I know of that you can just add to gas to clean the carb out properly. They never work.

Removing the carb is not that hard to do. If it's not your cup of tea, then find a buddy who can do it for you. Just make sure he knows what he's doing.

Good Luck

PS: If you didn't live so far away, I'd do it for you. It would cost you a case of beer.



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Luke

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Re: how to clean pilot jet [Re: Moto Psycho] #61082 03/25/10 03:07 PM

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As mentioned, its not hard at all, but the pilot jet has a very small hole so if you can't clean it out with a burst of carb cleaner you'll need a thin needle or a torch tip cleaner set( around 3-4 bucks)



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Re: how to clean pilot jet [Re: bodawg] #61108 03/25/10 09:29 PM

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If the bike will start and run in some fashion, then just ride it. Off-road preferably in case it dies. Mine had sat for quite a while before I bought it, about a year. It was running poorly but it did run. After a couple of tanks it cleared up. That method does take some time though, and if it is real dirty then it may not help.
Dont be afraid to take the carb off yourself. just put it back on the way it comes off.
Might be a good opp. for a re-jet.



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Re: how to clean pilot jet [Re: moviemaker] #61126 03/26/10 04:00 AM

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I had the same problem, and unfortunately that was not the only problem. I used a strand of copper pulled from a speaker wire to unclog the Pilot Jet. I just gently worked it through until I could see light. I also used a fuel additive to make sure other deposits were cleared.

I have heard that the ethanol in CA fuel can cause many problem for vehicles that sit for a long time. I also had rust in the gas tank so much gunk in the carb that parts would barley move. The fuel petcock gaskets had also deteriorated to the point that pieces of it were lodged in the fuel inlet to the carb. I took apart the carb and boiled the individual pieces in a lemon juice and water solution. Look at the results below.


My 99 XT225 runs great now.


Re: how to clean pilot jet [Re: JetRod] #61136 03/26/10 12:29 PM

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Always drain the carb if the bike is going to sit more than a few days. WHen I worked at the bike shop pilot jets plugging were a constant problem on every four-stroke.

Once the carb is drained loosen the carb clamps and twist the carb toward you, left side of bike. Remove the float bowl...those screws are soft. SO LIGHTLY tap the area around teh screw with a small hammer a few times before you try to loosen them with a good screwdriver.

Remove the pilot jet, spray some carb cleaner into a jar and let the pilot jet sit in there for an hour or so. Then blow it out wtih compressed air. Running a wire or anything thru that tiny, soft brass jet will ruin it. When the hole is perfectly clear reinstall. Be careful not to disturb the float or float level!

Put a bit of grease on the threads of the screws holding the float bowl on so they dont seise. It doesnt hurt to wipe a smear of grease on the float bowl seal as well, so it comes apart easily next time this happens.

That's it. Bike will run perfect again, don't forget to drain carb next time. I have seen bikes with tiny pilot jets, like our XTs, plug up solid in a week because of the crappy fuel we get these days.

Good luck, it's a nusciance but that's the way it is unfortunately,

dan


Re: how to clean pilot jet [Re: wavehog] #61139 03/26/10 01:22 PM

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The guy knocked $200 off the price of my Serow because of a plugged pilot. $180 for a shop to do it sounds like a major rip-off.



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Re: how to clean pilot jet [Re: bodawg] #61140 03/26/10 01:31 PM

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Yeah...at $60.00 or $70.00 an hour it adds up fast, although technically that sounds like 30 minutes of work. They don't call them "Stealerships" for nothing.



Deej

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Think of your three closest friends. If they seem normal......
you're the one!"

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Re: how to clean pilot jet [Re: Deric] #61141 03/26/10 02:18 PM

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$60 or $70 an hour? My local "stealership" charges $90 an hour with a 2 hour minumum. I thought people were joking when they said it was a $200 oil change on a simple bike like mine there. Which is why I am doing my own work as much as possible.



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